1 (17) AGENDA Farledsavdelningen Sjökarteenheten Handläggare, direkttelefon 2008-03-11 Dnr: Svante Håkansson, 011-19 10 07 NAVTEX, SMHI - SjöV - Stockholmradio Tid Torsdag 13 mars 2008 Plats Stockholmradio 1. Föregående mötesanteckningar. 2. Kontroll och eventuella ändringar av dagordningen. 3. Genomförda förändringar Snabb rekapitulation och utvärdering av de förändringar vi genomfört på senare tid. 4. Kulingvarningar - Problem hos Stockholmradio när det kommer en korrigerad version av en kulingvarning strax innan utsändning. Svårt att hitta vari ändringen består, jämfört med föregående version. Finns det möjlighet att markera ändringen? - Skulle det vara någon fördel med att SMHI numrerar kulingvarningarna? - Vi utvärderar några utländska kulingvarningar 5. Baltic Sea Weather Forecast Önskemål har inkommit om att det, förutom 24 h prognos finns med en utsikt för det därpå följande dygnet. Vi tittar på förkortningar och språkbruk. 6. Prognosområden Det område som på svenska heter SV Östersjön heter på engelska W Baltic. Bör ensas. Hur gör vi? 7. Vattenstånd Vi har inte hunnit med att inventera vilka specifika, lokala, behov det kan finnas för att varna för låga vattenstånd, t.ex. i Irbe Strait, Finska viken,
2 (17) Ålands hav, Kvarken osv. Vad skulle det innebära att ha samma kriterier för hela sub-arean som vi idag har i SV Östersjön och Öresund. Hur är läget med VIVA - SMHI 8. Nedisningsvarningar 9. Israpport 10. Ufs A 11. Meteo alarm Vad vet SMHI om detta? 12. Baltico Meeting 13. Nästa möte
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4 (17) Weather forecast 110430 UTC MAR BALTIC SEA WEATHERFORECAST NEAR GALE WARNING: SKAGERRAK, KATTEGAT, THE SOUND, THE BELTS, WESTERN, SOUTHERN AND SOUTHEASTERN BALTIC. WEATHER SUMMARY A DEEP LOW CENTERED IN SOUTHERN PART OF THE NORTH SEA MOV SOUTHEASTWARDS AND WKN. ANOTHER LOW IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN MOV TOWARDS BRITISH ISLES AND DPN. FORECAST VALID 24 HOURS, WIND SCALE IN METERS PER SECOND SKAGERRAK AND KATTEGAT: AROUND SE 10-15 M/S. MOD-GOOD VIS, RAIN AT TIMES. LAKE VAENERN: SE 4-8, SLWY INCR 7-12. MAINLY GOOD VIS, TONIGHT SOME RAIN. THE SOUND, THE BELTS AND WESTERN BALTIC: SE 8-12. FROM EVENING S-SW INCR 10-15. MOD-GOOD VIS, AT TIMES SOME RAIN. SOUTHERN AND SOUTHEASTERN BALTIC: SE-S 7-12, AT TIMES SOMEWHAT DECR. LATE NIGHT INCR 10-15. MOD-GOOD VIS. CENTRAL AND NORTHERN BALTIC, SEA OF AALAND AND ARCHIPELAGO SEA: SE-S 8-12. MOD OR LOC POOR VIS. GULF OF RIGA AND GULF OF FINLAND: AROUND S 6-10, AT TIMES SOMEWHAT INCR. MOD-GOOD VIS. SEA OF BOTHNIA: SE-S 4-8. DURING DAY SLWY INCR 8-13. MAINLY MOD VIS, LOC FOG. THE QUARK AND BAY OF BOTHNIA: AROUND S 7-12, SLWY DECR 4-8 M/S. MOD VIS, LOC FOG. MALIN HEAD COAST GUARD RADIO/EJM THE SHIPPING FORECAST ISSUED AT 0505 ON TUESDAY 11 MARCH 2008 ISSUED BY THE MET OFFICE, EXETER, UK THERE ARE WARNINGS OF GALES IN TYNE DOGGER GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER THAMES DOVER WIGHT PORTLAND PLYMOUTH BISCAY FITZROY SOLE LUNDY FASTNET IRISH SEA SHAN NON ROCKALL MALIN HEBRIDES AND BAILEY. THE GENERAL SYNOPSIS AT MIDNIGHT LOW HUMBER 966 MOVING STEADILY NORTHEAST AND LOSING ITS IDENTITY. LOW 300 MILES WEST OF ROCKALL 967 EXPECTED MALIN 960 BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. NEW LOW EXPECTED FAEROES 963 BY SAME TIME. THE AREA FORECAST FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS SHAN NON WESTERLY GALE 8 TO STORM 10. HIGH BECOMING VERY HIGH. SHOWERS. POOR. ROCKALL MALIN
5 (17) SOUTHWEST 5 TO 7 INCRESING GALE 8 TO STORM 10, OCCASIONALLY VIOLENT STORM 11 IN ROCKALL, PERHAPS VIOLENT STORM 11 LATER IN MALIN, THEN VEERING NORTHWEST. VERY ROUGH BECOMING HIGH OR VERY HIGH. SHOWERS. POOR. HEBRIDES BAILEY NORTHERLY 4 OR 5, OCCASIONALLY 6 IN HEBRIDES, BECOMING CYCLONIC 5 TO 7 THEN NORTHWEST 6 TO GALE 8, PERHAPS SEVERE GALE 9 LATER. ROUGH BECOMING VERY ROUGH OR HIGH. SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD. ISSUED BY THE MET OFFICE AT 110620 UTC GALE WARNINGS: LUNDY FASTNET IRISH SEA ROCKALL MALIN HEBRIDES BAILEY THE GENERAL SITUATION AT MIDNIGHT LOW HUMBER 966 MOV STEADILY NE AND LOSING ITS IDENTITY. LOW 300 MILES W OF ROCKALL 967 EXP MALIN 960 BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. NEW LOW EXP FAEROES 963 BY SAME TIME 24-HR FCSTS LUNDY FASTNET W OR SW 7 TO SEV GALE 9, PERHAPS STORM 10 LATER. VERY ROUGH OR HIGH. SHWRS. MOD OR POOR IRISH SEA SW 5 TO 7 VEER W GALE 8 TO STORM 10, PERHAPS VIOLENT STORM 11 LATER. ROUGH BECMG VERY ROUGH OR HIGH. SHWRS. MOD OR POOR ROCKALL MALIN SW 5 TO 7 INCR GALE 8 TO STORM 10, OCNL VIOLENT STORM 11 IN ROCKALL, PERHAPS VIOLENT STORM 11 LATER IN MALIN, THEN VEER NW. VERY ROUGH BECMG HIGH OR VERY HIGH. SHWRS. POOR HEBRIDES BAILEY N 4 OR 5, OCNL 6 IN HEBRIDES, BECMG CYCLONIC 5 TO 7 THEN NW 6 TO GALE 8, PERHAPS SEV GALE 9 LATER. ROUGH BECMG VERY ROUGH OR HIGH. SHWRS. MOD OR GOOD FAIR ISLE SE 5 TO 7 BECMG CYCLONIC 4 OR 5. VERY ROUGH BECMG ROUGH. SHWRS. MOD OR GOOD FAEROES SE ICELAND CYCLONIC 5 TO 7. ROUGH. SHWRS. MOD OR GOOD OUTLOOK FLW 24 HOURS: VIOLENT STORMS AT FIRST IN IRISH SEA, WITH STORMS EXP IN LUNDY, FASTNET, ROCKALL AND MALIN. SEV GALES EXP FOR HEBRIDES, BAILEY, FAIR ISLE AND FAEROES, WITH STRG WINDS FOR SE ICELAND THE SHIPPING FORECAST ISSUED BY THE MET OFFICE AT 0505 ON TUESDAY 11 MARCH 08 THERE ARE WARNINGS OF GALES IN TYNE DOGGER GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER THAMES DOVER WIGHT PORTLAND PLYMOUTH BISCAY FITZROY SOLE LUNDY FASTNET IRISH SEA SHANNON ROCKALL MALIN HEBRIDES AND BAILEY THE GENERAL SYNOPSIS AT MIDNIGHT LOW HUMBER 966 MOVING STEADILY NORTHEAST AND LOSING ITS IDENTITY. LOW 300 MILES WEST OF ROCKALL 967 EXPECTED MALIN 960 MY MIDNIGHT TONIGH.
6 (17) NEW LOW EXPECTED FAEROES 963 BY SAME TIME. THE AREA FORECAST FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. SOLE LUNDY FASTNET WEST OR SOUTHWEST 7 TO SEVERE GALE 9, PERHAPS STORM 10 LATER. VERY ROUGH OR HIGH. SHOWERS. MODERATE OR POOR. SHANNON WESTERLY GALE 8 TO STORM 10. HIGH BECOMING VERY HIGH. SHOWERS. POOR.
7 (17) Gale warnings 110440 UTC MAR BALTIC SEA GALE WARNING 201 NEAR GALE WARNING SKAGERRAK, KATTEGAT: AROUND SE, AT TIMES 15 M/S. THE SOUND: FROM TO NIGHT S-SW 14 M/S. THE BELTS, WESTERN BALTIC: FROM EVENING S-SW 15 M/S. SOUTHERN BALTIC: FROM TO NIGHT SE-S 15 M/S. SOUTHEASTERN BALTIC: LATE NIGHT SE-S 15 M/S. NETHERLANDS COASTGUARD GALE WARNING NR. 33 110717 UTC MAR ISSUED 110708 UTC MAR DOVER HUMBER DOGGER SOUTHWEST 8 FORTIES VIKING SOUTHEAST 7 THAMES GERMAN BIGHT SOUTHWEST 7 FISHER NO WARNING PORTPATRICKRADIO GALE WARNING TUESDAY 11 MARCH 0358 UTC IRISH SEA WESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 INCREASING STORM FORCE 10 LATER ROCKALL SOUTHWESTERLY SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 IMMINENT, INCREASING VIOLENT STORM FORCE 11 SOON HEBRIDES SOUTHWESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 EXPECTED SOON BAILEY NORTHWESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 EXPECTED LATER FAIR ISLE GALE NOW CEASED MALIN HEAD COAST GUARD RADIO/EJM GALE WARNING THE FOLLOWING GALE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED BY MET EIREANN AT 0500 HOURS ON 11-MARCH-2008 SOUTHWEST WINDS VEERING WEST WILL REACH GALE OR STRONG GALE FORCE TODAY ON ALL IRISH COASTAL WATERS AND ON THE IRISH SEA. WINDS WILL REACH STROM FORCE TONIGHT ON COASTS FROM SLYNE HEAD TO MALIN HEAD TO CARLINGFORD LOUGH AND ON THE IRISH SEA NORTH OF ANGLESSEY. VALENTIA CG RADIO THE FOLLOWING GALE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED BY MET EIREANNN AT 0500 ON 11 MARCH 2008.
8 (17) SOUTHWEST WINDS VEERING WEST WILL REACH GALE OR STRONG GALE FORCE TODAY ON ALL IRISH COASTAL WATERS AND ON THE IRISH SEA. WINDS WILL REACH STORM FORCE TONIGHT ON COASTS FROM SLYNE HEAD TO MALIN HEAD TO CARLINGFORD LOUGH AND ON THE IRISH SEA NORTH OF ANGLESEY. CULLERCOATSRADIO GALE WARNING TUESDAY 11 MARCH 0358 UTC VIKING GALE NOW CEASED TYNE DOGGER SOUTHWESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 EXPECTED LATER HUMBER THAMES WESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 INCREASING SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 SOON FAIR ISLE GALE NOW CEASED NITONRADIO GALE WARNING TUESDAY 11 MARCH 0358 UTC THAMES DOVER WESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 INCREASING SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 SOON WIGHT PORTLAND WESTERLY SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 DECREASING GALE FORCE 8 IMMINENT, INCREASING SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 SOON PLYMOUTH BISCAY WESTERLY GALE FORCE 8 INCREASING SEVERE GALE FORCE 9 SOON
9 (17) Ang Israpporter -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Stockholm Radio. [mailto:maritime@stockholmradio.se] Skickat: den 6 januari 2008 14:57 Till: Håkansson, Svante Ämne: Ang Israpporter Hej igen Angående israpporterna: Upptäckt att SMHI skriver sin kompletta webbadress med understrykningstecken etc., webbadressen kanske räcker med att den slutar vid /ICESERVICE/ ). V4 tar bort okända tecken. Likaså Å Ä Ö tas bort, förekommer i ortsnamn i rapporterna. Skulle vara enklast om SMHI från början skriver A A O, tycks lätt slinka igenom här. Nu har vi kört enligt samma modell som förra vintern: BALTIC ICE INFORMATION med restriktioner går enbart på Navtex (läses ej). Innehåller restriktioner, mest Svenska och Finska hamnar. SWEDISH ICE REPORT läses ut (men sänds ej på Navtex) med isens utbredning, även denna innehåller utöver Svenska även utländska hamnar. Rubrikerna känns något motsägelsefulla, båda innehåller även utländska hamnar, vill du att vi kör så? Mvh Sten
10 (17) Lågt vattenstånd 2007 ZCZC JA26 191030 UTC APR BALTIC SEA NAVIGATIONAL WARNING 002 SOUTHERN BALTIC. THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP TO 80-100 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL FOR A SHORT TIME LATE THUESDAY EVENING. SÖDRA ÖSTERSJÖN. VATTENSTÅNDET KOMMER SENT I KVÄLL ATT KORTVARIGT SJUNKA TILL MELLAN 80 OCH 100 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. ZCZC JA34 261700 UTC JUN BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 004 SOUTHERN AND WESTERN BALTIC THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP RAPIDLY TO 60-80CM BELOW MSL DURING WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING. ZCZC JA38 BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 005 SOUTHERN BALTIC AND SOUTHERN PART OF THE SOUND: THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP 60-80 CM BELOW MSL WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON-EVENING. THURSDAY MORNING RISING TO ABOUT MSL. WESTERN BALTIC: THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP 70-100 CM BELOW MSL WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON-EVENING. THURSDAY MORNING RISING TO ABOUT MSL. CANCEL BALTIC SEA NAVIGATIONAL WARNING 004 SÖDRA ÖSTERSJÖN, SÖDRA ÖRESUND. VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG EFTERMIDDAG OCH KVÄLL HASTIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 60 OCH 80 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG EFTERMIDDAG OCH KVÄLL KORTVARIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 70 OCH 100 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. SÖDRA ÖSTERSJÖN, SÖDRA ÖRESUND. VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG EFTERMIDDAG OCH KVÄLL HASTIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 60 OCH 80 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG EFTERMIDDAG OCH KVÄLL KORTVARIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 70 OCH 100 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. ZCZC JA39 271330 UTC JUN
11 (17) BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 006 SOUTHERN BALTIC, THE BELTS AND SOUTHERN PART OF THE SOUND: THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP 60-80 CM BELOW MSL WEDNESDAY EVENING. THURSDAY MORNING RISING TO ABOUT MSL. WESTERN BALTIC: THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP 70-100 CM BELOW MSL WEDNESDAY EVENING. THURSDAY MORNING RISING TO ABOUT MSL. CANCEL BALTIC SEA NAVIGATIONAL WARNING 005 SÖDRA ÖSTERSJÖN, BÄLTEN SAMT SÖDRA ÖRESUND. VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG KVÄLL HASTIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 60 OCH 80 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER ONSDAG KVÄLL KORTVARIGT SJUNKA TILL, SOM LÄGST, MELLAN 70 OCH 100 CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. TORSDAG MORGON ÅTER NÄRA MEDELVATTENNIVÅN. ZCZC JA66 051230 UTC NOV BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 010 THE SOUTHERN SOUND AND SW BALTIC. THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO TEMP DROP TO APPROX 60CM BELOW MSL DURING MONDAY NIGHT TO EARLY TUESDAY. SÖDRA ÖRESUND OCH SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN. VATTENSTÅNDET VÄNTAS UNDER NATTEN TILL TISDAG TILLFÄLLIGT SJUNKA TILL OMKRING 60CM UNDER MEDELVATTEN. Lågt vattenstånd 2008 180900 UTC JAN BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 002 THE SOUND. W BALTIC. S BALTIC. DURING SATURDAY THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS. THE SOUND: 120 CM BELOW MSL. W BALTIC: 100 CM BELOW MSL. S BALTIC: 90 CM BELOW MSL. DURING SATURDAY EVENING THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO RISE AGAIN. NNNN 241511 UTC JAN BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 007 THE SOUND. W BALTIC. DURING FRIDAY EVENING THE WATER LEVEL IS EXPECTED TO DROP BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
12 (17) THE SOUND: 80 CM BELOW MSL. W BALTIC: 80 CM BELOW MSL. 261100 UTC JAN BALTIC SEA NAVIGATIONAL WARNING 008 THE SOUND AND WESTERN BALTIC SATURDAY AFTERNOON WATER LEVEL DROPS TO ABOUT 80 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL 262122 UTC JAN BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 009 THE SOUND AND WESTERN BALTIC: IN SOUTHERN PART OF THE SOUND AND IN WESTERN BALTIC AT FIRST WATER LEVEL 60-80 CM BLW MEAN SEA LEVEL. 311530 UTC JAN BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 011 THE BELT THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO ABOUT 60 TO 90 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL IN THE BELT DURING FRIDAY NIGHT AND EARLY MORNING. W BALTIC THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO ABOUT 80 TO 110 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL IN THE SW BALTIC DURING FRIDAY MORNING. 160640 UTC FEB BALTIC NAV WARN 012 SOUTHWESTERN BALTIC: THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO 60-70 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL DURING SUNDAY MORNING. 210900 UTC FEB BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 013 W BALTIC: THE WATER LEVEL DROPS 60-70 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL TONIGHT. DURING FRIDAY THE WATER LEVEL CONTINUES TO DROP. THE SOUND: THE WATER LEVEL TEMP DROPS TO AROUND 60 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL DURING FRIADY MORNING. THE LEVEL THEN RISES ONLY TO AGAIN DROP QUICKLY FRIDAY NIGHT. 211500 UTC FEB BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 014 S BALTIC: FRIDAY NIGHT THE WATER LEVEL MAY DROP TO AROUND 60 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL. W BALTIC: TONIGHT AND DURING FIRDAY THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO 60-80 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL. THE SOUND: THE WATER LEVEL TEMP DROPS TO AROUND 60 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL DURING FRIDAY MORNING. THE LEVEL THEN RISES ONLY TO
13 (17) DROP QUICKLY. POSSIBLY AS LOW AS 80-90 CM BELOW MEAN FRIDAY NIGHT. 220650 UTC FEB BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 015 S BALTIC: FRIDAY EVENING THE WATER LEVEL MAY DROP TO AROUND 60 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL. W BALTIC: DURING FIRDAY THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO 60-90 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL. THE SOUND: THE WATER LEVEL TEMP DROPS TO AROUND 60 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL DURING FRIDAY MORNING. THE LEVEL THEN RISES ONLY TO DROP QUICKLY. POSSIBLY AS LOW AS 80-90 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL ON FRIDAY EVENING. 230330 UTC FEB BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 016 THE SOUND: SOUTHERN PART OF THE SOUND 60-90 CM BELOV MEAN SEA LEVEL. WESTERN BALTIC: WATER LEVEL 60-90 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL. SOUTHERN BALTIC: AT FIRST WATER LEVEL DROPS TO 50-60 CM BELOV MEAN SEA LEVEL. 060730 UTC MAR BALTIC SEA NAV WARN 020 W BALTIC. THE WATER LEVEL DROPS TO 60-80 CM BELOW MEAN SEA LEVEL LATE THURSDAY MORNING. IN THE AFTERNOON RISING. SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN. VATTENSTÅNDET SJUNKER I SYDVÄSTRA ÖSTERSJÖN UNDER DAGEN KORTVARIGT TILL 60-80 CM UNDER MEDELVATTENSTÅND.
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MSI and Weather Forecast Areas 16 (17) To understand the information in Navigationaland Gale Warnings and other MSI the navigator must now the extension of the geographical areas witch are referred to. Unfortunately these areas have not in all cases been internationally agreed and they may in some areas be contradictory, both regarding the extensions and designations. HAK01\MY DOCUMENTS\BALTICO\METEO INFO PÅ NAVTEX\AGENDA SMHI-SJÖV-STOCKHOLMRADIO 13 MAR 2008.DOC
17 (17) AGENDA Farledsavdelningen Sjökarteenheten Handläggare, direkttelefon 2008-03-11 Dnr: